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Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
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Roger
Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
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Roger
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
Windows 98 General Discussion group?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> --
> Roger
As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
Windows 98 General Discussion group?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> --
> Roger
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
sry. just because there was a plethora of responses to notice of someone
dying and then a philosophical discussion that probably doesn't belong here
either.
thanks for the response. you are a great help here to us.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> > Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> > --
> > Roger
>
>
sry. just because there was a plethora of responses to notice of someone
dying and then a philosophical discussion that probably doesn't belong here
either.
thanks for the response. you are a great help here to us.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> > Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> > --
> > Roger
>
>
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Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)
--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>> --
>> Roger
>
Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>> --
>> Roger
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Hey, Kid. How's it?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
>
> --
> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in
the
> > Windows 98 General Discussion group?
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> >> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> >> --
> >> Roger
> >
>
>
Hey, Kid. How's it?
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)>
> --
> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in
the
> > Windows 98 General Discussion group?
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> >> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> >> --
> >> Roger
> >
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
<VBSEG>
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
>
> --
> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>>> --
>>> Roger
>>
>
>
Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
<VBSEG>
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)>
> --
> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>>> --
>>> Roger
>>
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
She follows you around, Richard, just like me sometimes.
Got any ideas about the KB891711 problem under Win9X and W2K?
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
> <VBSEG>
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
> >
> > --
> > In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >
> > All the Best,
> > Kelly (MS-MVP)
> >
> > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
> >> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >>
> >> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> >>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> >>> --
> >>> Roger
> >>
She follows you around, Richard, just like me sometimes.
Got any ideas about the KB891711 problem under Win9X and W2K?
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
> <VBSEG>
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)> >
> > --
> > In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >
> > All the Best,
> > Kelly (MS-MVP)
> >
> > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
> >> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >>
> >> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> >>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> >>> --
> >>> Roger
> >>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Candy is OK by me. He & Dundat have been known to climb in/out many a
Recycle Bin, intrepidly, to save a poster/two here. ONLY Candy has
survived!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
| Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
| --
| Roger
Candy is OK by me. He & Dundat have been known to climb in/out many a
Recycle Bin, intrepidly, to save a poster/two here. ONLY Candy has
survived!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
| Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
| --
| Roger
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and I
have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that patch
on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:%23ciZnc6LFHA.2796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> She follows you around, Richard, just like me sometimes.
>
> Got any ideas about the KB891711 problem under Win9X and W2K?
> --
> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> ------
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
>> <VBSEG>
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
>> >
>> > --
>> > In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >
>> > All the Best,
>> > Kelly (MS-MVP)
>> >
>> > Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> > news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>> >> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>> >>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>> >>> --
>> >>> Roger
>> >>
>
>
>
Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and I
have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that patch
on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:%23ciZnc6LFHA.2796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> She follows you around, Richard, just like me sometimes.
>
> Got any ideas about the KB891711 problem under Win9X and W2K?
> --
> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> ------
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
>> <VBSEG>
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)>> >
>> > --
>> > In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>> >
>> > All the Best,
>> > Kelly (MS-MVP)
>> >
>> > Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>> >
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> > news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>> >> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>> >>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>> >>> --
>> >>> Roger
>> >>
>
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Have been reflecting......and thought of you guys!)
--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u8rJ1k3LFHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hey, Kid. How's it?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
>>
>> --
>> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in
> the
>> > Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gary S. Terhune
>> > MS MVP Shell/User
>> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >
>> > "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>> >> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>> >> --
>> >> Roger
>> >
>>
>>
>
Have been reflecting......and thought of you guys!
)--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u8rJ1k3LFHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hey, Kid. How's it?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)>>
>> --
>> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in
> the
>> > Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gary S. Terhune
>> > MS MVP Shell/User
>> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >
>> > "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>> >> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>> >> --
>> >> Roger
>> >
>>
>>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
<LOL> True that, I just missed yall.
--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
> <VBSEG>
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
>>
>> --
>> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>>> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS MVP Shell/User
>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>
>>> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>>>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>>>> --
>>>> Roger
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
<LOL> True that, I just missed yall.
--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)
Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
> <VBSEG>
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)>>
>> --
>> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>
>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>>> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS MVP Shell/User
>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>
>>> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>>>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>>>> --
>>>> Roger
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
We miss you too. Always glad to see you stop in and say hey!
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u8fcC9DMFHA.4092@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> <LOL> True that, I just missed yall.
>
> --
> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
>> <VBSEG>
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
>>>
>>> --
>>> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>>
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>>>> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>>>>> --
>>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
We miss you too. Always glad to see you stop in and say hey!
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u8fcC9DMFHA.4092@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> <LOL> True that, I just missed yall.
>
> --
> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
>> <VBSEG>
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)>>>
>>> --
>>> In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>>
>>> All the Best,
>>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in the
>>>> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
>>>>> --
>>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Not only have none of my machines exhibited the Update problem, I can't even
find one locally to see it in the flesh.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and I
> have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that patch
> on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:%23ciZnc6LFHA.2796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > She follows you around, Richard, just like me sometimes.
> >
> > Got any ideas about the KB891711 problem under Win9X and W2K?
> > --
> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> > In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> > ------
> > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
> >> <VBSEG>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> >> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> >> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >
> >> > All the Best,
> >> > Kelly (MS-MVP)
> >> >
> >> > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> >> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in
the
> >> >> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Roger
> >> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Not only have none of my machines exhibited the Update problem, I can't even
find one locally to see it in the flesh.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and I
> have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that patch
> on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:%23ciZnc6LFHA.2796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > She follows you around, Richard, just like me sometimes.
> >
> > Got any ideas about the KB891711 problem under Win9X and W2K?
> > --
> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> > In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> > ------
> > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:eQ20zD6LFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Hey! Who let you in? This thread isn't even crossposted!
> >> <VBSEG>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> >> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> >> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:uNcyPJ3LFHA.1472@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi GAry (Kelly waving hand)!
)> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
> >> >
> >> > All the Best,
> >> > Kelly (MS-MVP)
> >> >
> >> > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> >> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:uLFKl$wLFHA.3868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> As far as I know, no. Why do you ask, and why do you ask here, in
the
> >> >> Windows 98 General Discussion group?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> "Rogerinthecity" <Rogerinthecity@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message news:C0103C83-3084-4626-A204-9F552345F329@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> Is David Candy a Microsoft employee??
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Roger
> >> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Two out of two failures here .
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and I
> have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that patch
> on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
Two out of two failures here .
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and I
> have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that patch
> on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
I've received a request from the team that's working on the
KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had problems
with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can help
them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not yet
received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than has
been reported thus far.
<snip>
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Two out of two failures here .
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and
I
> > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that
patch
> > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
>
>
I've received a request from the team that's working on the
KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had problems
with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can help
them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not yet
received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than has
been reported thus far.
<snip>
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Two out of two failures here .
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and
I
> > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that
patch
> > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Jeff, perhaps you will consider restoring the plain-vanilla MS video
drivers on the afflicted machines to test the current theory that the video
drivers are the cause of the problem? I just can't find any affected boxes.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Two out of two failures here .
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and
I
> > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that
patch
> > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
>
Jeff, perhaps you will consider restoring the plain-vanilla MS video
drivers on the afflicted machines to test the current theory that the video
drivers are the cause of the problem? I just can't find any affected boxes.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Two out of two failures here .
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it happen and
I
> > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted that
patch
> > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
See Don Kirkpatrick's reply to me on this issue. As I suspected, the
right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at Microsoft.
I'd hold off on directly calling MS on this issue until this gets
straightened out.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:usYkaxVMFHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've received a request from the team that's working on the
> KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
problems
> with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can help
> them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
> problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not
yet
> received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than
has
> been reported thus far.
> <snip>
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
>
> --
> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> ------
> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
> news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Two out of two failures here .
> > --
> > Jeff Richards
> > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it
happen and
> I
> > > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted
that
> patch
> > > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
> >
> >
>
>
See Don Kirkpatrick's reply to me on this issue. As I suspected, the
right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at Microsoft.
I'd hold off on directly calling MS on this issue until this gets
straightened out.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:usYkaxVMFHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've received a request from the team that's working on the
> KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
problems
> with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can help
> them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
> problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not
yet
> received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than
has
> been reported thus far.
> <snip>
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
>
> --
> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> ------
> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
> news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Two out of two failures here .
> > --
> > Jeff Richards
> > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it
happen and
> I
> > > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted
that
> patch
> > > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
> >
> >
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Where on earth is this Kirkpatrick reply???
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23CwZgEWMFHA.244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| See Don Kirkpatrick's reply to me on this issue. As I suspected, the
| right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at
Microsoft.
| I'd hold off on directly calling MS on this issue until this gets
| straightened out.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
| news:usYkaxVMFHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > I've received a request from the team that's working on the
| > KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
| problems
| > with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can
help
| > them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
| > problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not
| yet
| > received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than
| has
| > been reported thus far.
| > <snip>
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS MVP Shell/User
| > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| >
| >
| > --
| > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
| > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
| >
| > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
| > In Memorium: Alex Nichol
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
| > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
| > ------
| > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
| > news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > > Two out of two failures here .
| > > --
| > > Jeff Richards
| > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| > > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
| > > news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > > > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it
| happen and
| > I
| > > > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted
| that
| > patch
| > > > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
Where on earth is this Kirkpatrick reply???
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23CwZgEWMFHA.244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| See Don Kirkpatrick's reply to me on this issue. As I suspected, the
| right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at
Microsoft.
| I'd hold off on directly calling MS on this issue until this gets
| straightened out.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
| news:usYkaxVMFHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > I've received a request from the team that's working on the
| > KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
| problems
| > with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can
help
| > them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
| > problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not
| yet
| > received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than
| has
| > been reported thus far.
| > <snip>
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS MVP Shell/User
| > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| >
| >
| > --
| > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
| > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
| >
| > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
| > In Memorium: Alex Nichol
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
| > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
| > ------
| > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
| > news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > > Two out of two failures here .
| > > --
| > > Jeff Richards
| > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| > > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
| > > news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > > > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it
| happen and
| > I
| > > > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted
| that
| > patch
| > > > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
The latest from MS:
"Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows
98,
Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.
"Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware
of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in
MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need
additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866)
PCSAFETY."
I'm now assured, and fairly confident, that anyone who answers that
number will be up to speed on the issue.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23CwZgEWMFHA.244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> See Don Kirkpatrick's reply to me on this issue. As I suspected, the
> right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at
Microsoft.
> I'd hold off on directly calling MS on this issue until this gets
> straightened out.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:usYkaxVMFHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I've received a request from the team that's working on the
> > KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
> problems
> > with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can
help
> > them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
> > problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not
> yet
> > received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than
> has
> > been reported thus far.
> > <snip>
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> > In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> > ------
> > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Two out of two failures here .
> > > --
> > > Jeff Richards
> > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> > > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it
> happen and
> > I
> > > > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted
> that
> > patch
> > > > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
The latest from MS:
"Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows
98,
Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.
"Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware
of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in
MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need
additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866)
PCSAFETY."
I'm now assured, and fairly confident, that anyone who answers that
number will be up to speed on the issue.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23CwZgEWMFHA.244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> See Don Kirkpatrick's reply to me on this issue. As I suspected, the
> right hand still doesn't know what the left hand is doing at
Microsoft.
> I'd hold off on directly calling MS on this issue until this gets
> straightened out.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:usYkaxVMFHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I've received a request from the team that's working on the
> > KB891711 issue. They would like everyone in the USA who has had
> problems
> > with KB891711 to call 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338). If you can
help
> > them with some info, they say they're close to reproducing the
> > problem--first step toward solving it. I have asked for, though not
> yet
> > received, assurances that callers will be taken more seriously than
> has
> > been reported thus far.
> > <snip>
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
> > In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> > ------
> > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:eL2l3aSMFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Two out of two failures here .
> > > --
> > > Jeff Richards
> > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> > > "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eJifO8AMFHA.1308@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Several, but I'm confounded by the fact that I can't make it
> happen and
> > I
> > > > have taken three PCs at work (all various brands) and inflicted
> that
> > patch
> > > > on them. Neither can I get it to happen under Virtual PC.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> The latest from MS:
>
> "Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows
> 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
> confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.
>
> "Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
> return to a vulnerable state.
Like when isn't the machine at some vulnerable state? (rhetorical)
(nevermind...)
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> The latest from MS:
>
> "Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows
> 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to
> confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.
>
> "Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will
> return to a vulnerable state.
Like when isn't the machine at some vulnerable state? (rhetorical)
(nevermind...)
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Re-installing plain vanilla video drivers isn't possible unless the update
has been removed, but Windows update will not re-install the update so it's
not possible to determine whether or not the changed video driver has an
effect. Classic Catch-22.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:eAUvnyVMFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Jeff, perhaps you will consider restoring the plain-vanilla MS video
> drivers on the afflicted machines to test the current theory that the
> video
> drivers are the cause of the problem? I just can't find any affected
> boxes.
Re-installing plain vanilla video drivers isn't possible unless the update
has been removed, but Windows update will not re-install the update so it's
not possible to determine whether or not the changed video driver has an
effect. Classic Catch-22.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:eAUvnyVMFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Jeff, perhaps you will consider restoring the plain-vanilla MS video
> drivers on the afflicted machines to test the current theory that the
> video
> drivers are the cause of the problem? I just can't find any affected
> boxes.
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to offer
it again.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:OCFH13ZMFHA.244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Re-installing plain vanilla video drivers isn't possible unless the
update
> has been removed, but Windows update will not re-install the update so
it's
> not possible to determine whether or not the changed video driver has
an
> effect. Classic Catch-22.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:eAUvnyVMFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Jeff, perhaps you will consider restoring the plain-vanilla MS
video
> > drivers on the afflicted machines to test the current theory that
the
> > video
> > drivers are the cause of the problem? I just can't find any
affected
> > boxes.
>
>
Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to offer
it again.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:OCFH13ZMFHA.244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Re-installing plain vanilla video drivers isn't possible unless the
update
> has been removed, but Windows update will not re-install the update so
it's
> not possible to determine whether or not the changed video driver has
an
> effect. Classic Catch-22.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:eAUvnyVMFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Jeff, perhaps you will consider restoring the plain-vanilla MS
video
> > drivers on the afflicted machines to test the current theory that
the
> > video
> > drivers are the cause of the problem? I just can't find any
affected
> > boxes.
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
OK. Now running with Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) and 891711
installed.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uAorypaMFHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
> uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to offer
> it again.
OK. Now running with Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) and 891711
installed.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uAorypaMFHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
> uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to offer
> it again.
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
Do I understand you to mean that the machine works fine after changing to
the Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) AND while running KB891711?
If so, that would seem to implicate the third-party video driver, don't you
think?
****
BTW & AFAIK, using the Add-Remove Programs wizard, in Normal Mode, while
KB891711.exe is executing, causes the registry "Run" entries to be removed
which launch it at Startup. WU does NOT reoffer the "patch".
Using Add-Remove wizard during Safe Mode also deletes the two files at
Windows\System\KB891711, which causes Win Updates to reoffer the 'patch".
Win98 has a third file, a KB891711.inf, about which I don't know what is
done during the uninstall. Others here may know.
****
As a further test, if temporarily disabling KB891711 using msconfig/Startup
and reinstalling the third-party video drivers, and then reenabling the
"patch" again causes the machine to throwup, I would say the drivers are the
issue with KB891711.
Thank you for your help, and pass this along to Microsoft, Gary,
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:OpCu1zbMFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> OK. Now running with Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) and 891711
> installed.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uAorypaMFHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
> > uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to offer
> > it again.
>
Do I understand you to mean that the machine works fine after changing to
the Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) AND while running KB891711?
If so, that would seem to implicate the third-party video driver, don't you
think?
****
BTW & AFAIK, using the Add-Remove Programs wizard, in Normal Mode, while
KB891711.exe is executing, causes the registry "Run" entries to be removed
which launch it at Startup. WU does NOT reoffer the "patch".
Using Add-Remove wizard during Safe Mode also deletes the two files at
Windows\System\KB891711, which causes Win Updates to reoffer the 'patch".
Win98 has a third file, a KB891711.inf, about which I don't know what is
done during the uninstall. Others here may know.
****
As a further test, if temporarily disabling KB891711 using msconfig/Startup
and reinstalling the third-party video drivers, and then reenabling the
"patch" again causes the machine to throwup, I would say the drivers are the
issue with KB891711.
Thank you for your help, and pass this along to Microsoft, Gary,
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
news:OpCu1zbMFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> OK. Now running with Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) and 891711
> installed.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uAorypaMFHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
> > uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to offer
> > it again.
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)
I guess I can try that one. BUT...
(1) Last time I went to my Standard VGA, some windows were drawing off
the screen. If I can't get to critical buttons, I'll have to abort the
test.
(2) Once, in Standard VGA, I even recall an app/two refused to work,
giving an error message about resolution. If NetZero is like that, I'll
have to abort.
(3) If it is the Video Adapter, why does KB891711 appear to run in my
machine, IF I open an IE instance while offline? That instance will
continue to run, after getting online (through NetZero). Still, any
attempt to open a new instance after that will cause the new one to
BSOD, including the one NetZero tries to open for it's home page. BUT
the one pre-opened DOES CONTINUE to work, no matter how many BSOD new
instances cause.
(4) If it "is" the Video Adapter --Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63)--, STILL
I'd prefer KB891711 to be made compatible TO IT, not the other way
around. Nothing else in here is having trouble with my Blade!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:OmrEwyeMFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Do I understand you to mean that the machine works fine after changing
to
| the Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) AND while running KB891711?
| If so, that would seem to implicate the third-party video driver,
don't you
| think?
|
| ****
| BTW & AFAIK, using the Add-Remove Programs wizard, in Normal Mode,
while
| KB891711.exe is executing, causes the registry "Run" entries to be
removed
| which launch it at Startup. WU does NOT reoffer the "patch".
| Using Add-Remove wizard during Safe Mode also deletes the two files at
| Windows\System\KB891711, which causes Win Updates to reoffer the
'patch".
| Win98 has a third file, a KB891711.inf, about which I don't know what
is
| done during the uninstall. Others here may know.
| ****
|
| As a further test, if temporarily disabling KB891711 using
msconfig/Startup
| and reinstalling the third-party video drivers, and then reenabling
the
| "patch" again causes the machine to throwup, I would say the drivers
are the
| issue with KB891711.
|
| Thank you for your help, and pass this along to Microsoft, Gary,
| --
| Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
| Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
| In Memorium: Alex Nichol
| http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
| Your cooperation is very appreciated.
| ------
| "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
| news:OpCu1zbMFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > OK. Now running with Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) and 891711
| > installed.
| > --
| > Jeff Richards
| > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > news:uAorypaMFHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > > Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
| > > uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to
offer
| > > it again.
| >
|
|
I guess I can try that one. BUT...
(1) Last time I went to my Standard VGA, some windows were drawing off
the screen. If I can't get to critical buttons, I'll have to abort the
test.
(2) Once, in Standard VGA, I even recall an app/two refused to work,
giving an error message about resolution. If NetZero is like that, I'll
have to abort.
(3) If it is the Video Adapter, why does KB891711 appear to run in my
machine, IF I open an IE instance while offline? That instance will
continue to run, after getting online (through NetZero). Still, any
attempt to open a new instance after that will cause the new one to
BSOD, including the one NetZero tries to open for it's home page. BUT
the one pre-opened DOES CONTINUE to work, no matter how many BSOD new
instances cause.
(4) If it "is" the Video Adapter --Trident Blade 3D/MVP4 (63)--, STILL
I'd prefer KB891711 to be made compatible TO IT, not the other way
around. Nothing else in here is having trouble with my Blade!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:OmrEwyeMFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Do I understand you to mean that the machine works fine after changing
to
| the Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) AND while running KB891711?
| If so, that would seem to implicate the third-party video driver,
don't you
| think?
|
| ****
| BTW & AFAIK, using the Add-Remove Programs wizard, in Normal Mode,
while
| KB891711.exe is executing, causes the registry "Run" entries to be
removed
| which launch it at Startup. WU does NOT reoffer the "patch".
| Using Add-Remove wizard during Safe Mode also deletes the two files at
| Windows\System\KB891711, which causes Win Updates to reoffer the
'patch".
| Win98 has a third file, a KB891711.inf, about which I don't know what
is
| done during the uninstall. Others here may know.
| ****
|
| As a further test, if temporarily disabling KB891711 using
msconfig/Startup
| and reinstalling the third-party video drivers, and then reenabling
the
| "patch" again causes the machine to throwup, I would say the drivers
are the
| issue with KB891711.
|
| Thank you for your help, and pass this along to Microsoft, Gary,
| --
| Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
| Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
| In Memorium: Alex Nichol
| http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
| Your cooperation is very appreciated.
| ------
| "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
| news:OpCu1zbMFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > OK. Now running with Standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA) and 891711
| > installed.
| > --
| > Jeff Richards
| > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > news:uAorypaMFHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > > Do a Find on "KB891711" and delete everything that comes up (after
| > > uninstalling.) According to others, this causes Windows Updates to
offer
| > > it again.
| >
|
|
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