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On 19 Nov 2004 15:29:05 GMT, Dave Hinz spoketh
>On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 21:45:48 -0500, Lars M Hansen <badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote:
>> On 19 Nov 2004 02:23:23 GMT, Dave Hinz spoketh
>>
>>>
>>>Show me these wonderful French military victories.
>>
>> I have never claimed that the french have had any wonderful military
>> victories. All I've been saying is that the claim that the french are
>> cowards (i.e. very likely to surrender) are not as well founded in
>> history as some would like to believe.
>
>Show me when they've been anything but useless, Lars. From an outside
>observer, collapsing without giving any effective resistance to invastion
>looks an awful lot like "Don't hurt us, here, have Paris", to the point
>where if there is a distinction, it's meaningless in both appearance
>and in end-result.
Actually, the germans took Paris before they went back and had the
French army surrender. Where were they last effective? Gulf War, 1991.
>
>> The french did no worse (or
>> better) in 1939-1941 than any other European country, yet they are the
>> ones being picked on.
>
>Right, because of course there was Vichy-Poland, Vichy-Belgium,
>Vichy-Russia, and so on, is that it?
There were Nazi collaborators everywhere...
>
>> They spit on you? When have the french spit on the U.S.? Does not
>> blindly agreeing with U.S. foreign policy imply ungratefulness for
>> events that took place 50+ years ago?
>
>It's not about the Iraq wars, Lars, and you should know that. By the
>way, you do know that one of the reasons that France (and Germany,
>interestingly enough) were so opposed to action is that much of SH's
>purchases of hi-tech goods was coming from...guess where????
Really? You don't think the reason they didn't want to go to war was
that they thought there was still room for diplomacy, and that the
allegations of "imminent threat" by the US was exaggerated?
>
>Where are these French Victories, Lars? Maybe they think themselves
>brave, but they're ineffective.
Again, I've never claimed that French have had any big military
victories. They won, as a part of the Allies in both WW1 and WW2, and in
the Gulf War in 1991.
Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
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