Poor liquid metal application almost destroys Asus Zephyrus M16 laptop, eats through the processor lid — paste replacement triples framerates, drops temps, and eliminates hard crashes

Asus Zephyrus M16 poor liquid metal application
(Image credit: u/nicknickmeetnick on Reddit)

Asus has been putting liquid metal on mobile dies used in its laptops for a few years at this point. Liquid metal as a TIM has its place, but it's a highly inconsistent solution to a problem that can be solved by other materials. Such was the case with u/nicknickmeetnick, whose Zephyrus M16 gaming laptop was overheating and restarting on its own. Turns out, the instability came from an issue born from the factory — the liquid metal applied on the CPU had slowly eaten away at the heatsink and almost reached the silicon itself.

Liquid Metal should be forbidden! The only good about it is the corrosion it causes makes the new thermal paste more efficient being closer to the core.
 from r/ZephyrusM16
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  • hennes
    Article:
    Right away, the temperatures improved tenfold,

    I seriously doubt this. Assuming a 100C thermal emergency shutdown (absolute temperature 373 Kelvin). A tenfold increase would have cooled the CPU to -293F / -236 Celsius. Maybe 10 degrees cooler? Or tens of degrees cooler?
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  • PEnns
    hennes said:
    Article:


    I seriously doubt this. Assuming a 100C thermal emergency shutdown (absolute temperature 373 Kelvin). A tenfold increase would have cooled the CPU to -293F / -236 Celsius. Maybe 10 degrees cooler? Or tens of degrees cooler?

    I agree, but...I guess it was reaching 50 C and now it is just 5 C and the fella is now using his laptop to cool his beer while surfing
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  • hotaru251
    kind of a stupid demand to try and ban its use from electronics.

    LM has been used for a long time now & the issues are extremely rare....and its more at fault of a single few people. (i.e. asus as this posts prior claims seem to point out specifically)
    Blame the people designing the mixture and barriers not the LM itself.
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  • silversonic1
    The mixture seems like the kind of mistake a chemistry student would make. "It sticks better, but it's corrosive" isn't something that should be applied to a computer. ASUS should honestly be held accountable for this and needs to make this right. They essentially built a self-destruct system into the computer.
    And, no. I am not against Liquid Metal. I am against using a corrosive substance in a computer without ensuring it won't destroy the system.
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  • habermas
    The laptop in question is a Zephyrus M16 model from 2022 with an Intel Core i9-12900H processor that was bought just over three years ago. During this period, the laptop was mostly used for lightweight tasks instead of gaming or anything that'd stress it.
    An i9-12900H CPU "mostly used for light weight tasks" for three years. Talk about overkill.

    Perhaps this was all caused by the some of the 14 idle cores nearly dying of boredom and yearning to break free.
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  • P1nky
    What is this CPU lid you keep referring to? In my 20+ years of never heard of such a thing. Laptops are direct-die cooled by the heatsinks. AI slop and editor sleeping on the job?
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  • circadia
    this is nothing new, (gaming) laptop enthusiast spaces have stopped recommending any ASUS laptops at all for at least 3 or 4 years already, due to ASUS' poor build quality or quality control (as already seen in the article), warranty, numerous issues that they have refused to fix (including their liquid metal application), and so on.
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  • SkyBill40
    hennes said:
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    I seriously doubt this. Assuming a 100C thermal emergency shutdown (absolute temperature 373 Kelvin). A tenfold increase would have cooled the CPU to -293F / -236 Celsius. Maybe 10 degrees cooler? Or tens of degrees cooler?

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