Snapdragon X Elite laptops last 15+ hours on our battery test, but Intel systems not that far behind

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We're in the middle of testing a number of Windows laptops with Qualcomm's new Snapdragon X Elite CPUs inside. This is a major moment in PC history, because Microsoft is pushing this new generation of computers so hard, calling them Copilot+ PCs and giving them exclusive features that Intel and AMD-powered laptops won't get for months. 

Microsoft and Qualcomm have tried to make Windows on Arm laptops a successful part of the PC market for many years now and it has never worked out for a variety of reasons we could spend a whole article on -- compatibility issues, mediocre performance and high prices. Snapdragon Elite X systems promise to deliver really strong AI performance, run most Windows apps well and last all-day on a charge. So what about that last one?

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Avram Piltch is Managing Editor: Special Projects. When he's not playing with the latest gadgets at work or putting on VR helmets at trade shows, you'll find him rooting his phone, taking apart his PC, or coding plugins. With his technical knowledge and passion for testing, Avram developed many real-world benchmarks, including our laptop battery test.

  • Bikki
    Intel laptops reduce cpu speed in haft on battery to get 13hrs mark, very bad for user experience. When plugged in, they have their score reduced in the range of 20-40% when cpu gets hot. Imagine gaming with both cpu and gpu being stressed, you easily lose 70% of framerate in 5 minutes, and it is real for anyone that tried gaming on laptop. For Apple mac pro, their performane is consistent whether on battery or not, and never throttle due to their chip efficiency. Qualcom finally get there, people using windows on new X elite chip can never go back to Intel.

    Ref cinebench test : https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Pro-9-review-Convertible-now-with-significantly-more-CPU-power.685190.0.html.

    When talking about battery you should also mention efficency. Lasting 3-4 hours more on battery is only one facet of efficiency. Less heat, less fan noise, and less throttling are the other facets. All of those are important for everyday use along with battery life.
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  • salgado18
    So, you have tested 9 Intel systems, but not one AMD system. What was the criteria for laptop selection?
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  • Anon2406
    This article is both all over the place and makes no sense. First it says 14-15 hours is a "fairly long work day". What?? I don't know anyone who works 14-15 hours a day on their computer.

    Then it says 18-20 hours would be ideal since that would cover 2 work days. If 14-15 hours is 1 work day, how is 18-20 hours enough for 2 work days? That implies a normal work day is 3-6 hours while a "fairly long" day is 14-15.

    And finally the article says, let's be "real" because you hardly ever need more than 10-12 hours.
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  • redgarl
    AMD was already hitting that target last gen!
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  • aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hah
    So I am sure you investigated the level of x86 emulation still needed to run windows, yes even the ARM version...

    What did you find?

    I'm sure you found that emulating x86 from arm takes a bit more power no? You also likely discovered there was ALOT of this happening.

    If not there is your next article.

    That is of course unless you plan to frame another CONpany favorably without doing the leg work properly

    Maybe even multiple CONpanies considering your future research and pending articles?

    Else I can't see why this was even a real comparison.

    Run a real roots up arm based os with app infrastructure and all.... on that box and redo if you want to, no pun intended, compare apples to apples.
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  • nadrojcote
    Like others have mentioned this article is all over the place and it looks like you're in cahoots with Intel.

    First off anybody who has been following the recent laptop hardware improvments is aware that Intel CPUs throttle hard on battery, so of course they can get close to the same battery life, but we all know that it's at the cost of performance.

    Secondly where's the AMD comparisons?

    If you're trying to justify your recent purchases for Intel laptops in your office, then sure, this article makes sense, otherwise nobody in their right mind is buying into this.
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    I wish there were a battery comparison with Cinebench 2024 running on an endless loop at 150 nits of brightness to see how these laptops fair under stress.

    Anon2406 said:
    This article is both all over the place and makes no sense. First it says 14-15 hours is a "fairly long work day". What?? I don't know anyone who works 14-15 hours a day on their computer.

    Then it says 18-20 hours would be ideal since that would cover 2 work days. If 14-15 hours is 1 work day, how is 18-20 hours enough for 2 work days? That implies a normal work day is 3-6 hours while a "fairly long" day is 14-15.

    And finally the article says, let's be "real" because you hardly ever need more than 10-12 hours.

    What about students, or people who work during the day and go to school at night, or people whose only computer is that laptop? Those are all people who can easily use their computer for more than 10-12 hours a day and all who won't just be surfing the web at 150 nits of brightness. Plus in the age of non-user replaceable batteries and machines that cost the better part of $2000 (Surface Laptop 1TB, for instance), the slower you cycle that battery the better.
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  • Anon2406
    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    I wish there were a battery comparison with Cinebench 2024 running on an endless loop at 150 nits of brightness to see how these laptops fair under stress.



    What about students, or people who work during the day and go to school at night, or people whose only computer is that laptop? Those are all people who can easily use their computer for more than 10-12 hours a day and all who won't just be surfing the web at 150 nits of brightness. Plus in the age of non-user replaceable batteries and machines that cost the better part of $2000 (Surface Laptop 1TB, for instance), the slower you cycle that battery the better.
    There are also people that only use their computer for 1-2 hours a day. Do you want to read an article saying these laptops have a 1 week battery life because those types of people exist? Of course not. You want to read an analysis based on realistic real world usage. You can simply google "average computer use per day" and see that average daily computer use is about 7 hours per day.
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    Anon2406 said:
    There are also people that only use their computer for 1-2 hours a day. Do you want to read an article saying these laptops have a 1 week battery life because those types of people exist? Of course not. You want to read an analysis based on realistic real world usage. You can simply google "average computer use per day" and see that average daily computer use is about 7 hours per day.
    While an "average" 9-5 office worker may spend 7 hours in front of their work computer and then any number of hours at home on their personal computer, there are many people who use one personal machine for a much longer period of time each day, such as the cases I listed, or as mentioned in the article a journalist or contributor, or since these PCs, specifically the Surface devices, feature an advanced touch screen, an artist. Also, if you had a battery life of -only- 8 hours or less, and you forgot to charge it overnight or forgot your charger on an overnight trip, you'd be in trouble.

    And yes, I want a worst-case scenario figure for battery life because since everyone's use case is different it serves as a measure of the bare minimum of battery life you can expect, and it also showcases how performance will differ between an x86 and ARM Windows laptop as both heat increases and battery percentage decreases since a web surfing test is not intensive.

    You may not use your laptop for anything intensive, but these Copilot+ PCs are targeted at productivity. To quote Microsoft, "The unique experiences that come with Copilot+ PCs were made to accelerate the productivity and creativity of all users." How these things perform while being productive is a key aspect that needs to be tested.
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  • je90s
    again intel paid articles, not mentioning amd which is more efficient than intel in its last 2 apus 7000 and 8000.

    the way to mislead people in battery reviews:
    1- compare 2 devices without accounting for battery size (msi prestige 99.9W)
    2- compare with no indication of performance (should be 3 or more metrics for performance (that's why a raptor lake U cpu is more efficient than their best new offerings).
    3- don't account for different screens-wifi power draws.

    this is special for tomshardware:
    4- dont mention one of the biggest competing cpu companies (amd)
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