AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX3D Is the First 3D V-Cache CPU for Laptops
Launching in the Asus ROG Strix Scar 17
AMD is bringing 3D V-Cache, which powers some of the company's best CPUs, to gaming laptops. At ChinaJoy in Shanghai, the company announced the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D, which will launch on August 22 in the Asus ROG Strix Scar 17 X3D gaming laptop.
The chip is a 16-core, 32-thread processor with a boost clock up to 5.4 GHz (as of publication, AMD didn't list base clocks). It features 144MB of cache and has a TDP of at least 55W, though AMD suggests it can go higher. Like the rest of the Dragon Range HX-series lineup, the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D chip consists of a standard CPU for a desktop PC that's been crammed into a laptop chassis.
Architecture | Zen 4 |
Cores / Threads | 16 / 32 |
Boost clock | Up to 5.4 GHz |
Cache | 144MB (with 3D V-Cache) |
TDP | 55+W |
For those who haven't paid attention to the X3D desktop processors, the laptop one will work in a similar fashion. AMD applies 64MB of L3 cache to the CCD to reduce requests to system memory, saving precious milliseconds to keep framerates high by reducing the time it takes to complete instructions. For the technically inclined, you can read our detailing of AMD's second-gen V-Cache and previous explainers about packaging and hybrid bonding.
The company suggests that V-Cache is even far more impressive in a power-limited mobile device than on a desktop PC, where power is unlimited. With a lesser TDP, AMD suggests that you could get more than double the benefit in certain games. In a test using the Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark at 1080p on high settings with an AMD reference board and Nvidia Geforce RTX 4090, AMD claimed the V-Cache at a 40W TDP provided 23% faster results versus not having V-Cache at all, while at 70W it only offered an 11% benefit.
In general, AMD suggests you'll get more than a 15% increase in gaming performance compared to the current flagship AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX that we tested in the Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 16. That claim is based on performance in a variety of games, including Strange Brigade, Cyberpunk 2077, F1 2021, Total War: Warhammer 3, DOTA 2, Borderlands 3, and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided at high settings and 1080p. If this CPU follows the path of its desktop siblings, it may be the fastest CPU in a laptop. AMD didn't provide any comparisons against Intel CPUs (though its footnotes mention that AMD did test on an Intel Core i9-13980HX), so that will be up to reviewers.
Those hoping to see the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D outside of Asus' laptop are out of luck, for now. Asus and AMD have an exclusivity deal here, and there are no current plans for that chip to show up outside of the ROG Strix Scar 17. While it releases on August 22, no price was immediately announced as of publication, nor were regions where it will be for sale.
This is AMD's sixth chip using 3D V-Cache. Its predecessors are all desktop processors, including the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, the Micro Center-exclusive Ryzen 5 5600X3D, Ryzen 9 7950X3D, 7900 X3D, and Ryzen 7 7800X3D.
You can see AMD's full slide deck, including all the fine print, here:
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Alvar "Miles" Udell The regular model of this laptop is on sale now for $3400 at Newegg. If AMD just tacks on a $100-$200 or so price premium for the 3D cache, like they do for the desktop models, it's not going to be that bad. Still far in the "are you insane" levels of price, but if you're using a 4090M to play games at 1920x1080, then it fits.Reply
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The chip is a 16-core, 32-thread processor with a boost clock up to 5.4 GHz (as of publication, AMD didn't list base clocks).
This mobile CPU actually features a base clock speed of 2.3 GHz that is 200 MHz lower than the vanilla Ryzen 9 7945HX, but the boost frequency remains the same at 5.4 GHz. So it is 2.3 for base.
Now it remains to be seen how AMD's 'PPM Provisioning file' and the '3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer' drivers work in tandem with Microsoft's Game Mode. And does the OS really park the CCD without the 3D V-Cache, when a game doesn't require it ?
So the L3 cache on this SKU appears to be 128 MB (96+32), plus 16 for L2 cache, thus giving a total of 144 MB. -
oofdragon Why a super multi core CPU even exist as a mobile chip? If AMD was to launch a 7600X3D it would be right there with the 7950X3D, if you need super multi core (aka productivity time saver) you go desktop, if you go mobile you want battery time. Like is someone really flying on vacation but can't live withouth both super multi core and gaming for a week? For god sake ..Reply -
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🤦 This isn't hard to understand... Many, MANY people only want a single computer (specifically a laptop) that can do everything they want & potentially might need, and proper desktops are less popular right now than they've literally ever been in the history of personal computers (and that's not my personal opinion or anything, bc I LOOOOOOVE building/using desktop PC's).oofdragon said:Why a super multi core CPU even exist as a mobile chip? If AMD was to launch a 7600X3D it would be right there with the 7950X3D, if you need super multi core (aka productivity time saver) you go desktop, if you go mobile you want battery time. Like is someone really flying on vacation but can't live withouth both super multi core and gaming for a week? For god sake ..
Aka, high powered laptops that can properly replace a desktop (at least in everyway except expandability & upgradability ofc) have a MASSIVE market. And that market has SIGNIFICANT overlaps with the gaming laptop market as well, which is why this chip exists. -
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Thread scheduling in Windows with the heterogeneous dual-CCD X3D CPUs has already significantly improved since launch (if using the latest AMD X3D & chipset drivers and AGESA version ofc), but in the rare occasions where it still doesn't work correctly you can always just park the non-X3D CCD's cores manually before you game and basically temporarily turn it into a mobile R7 7800X3D.Metal Messiah. said:This mobile CPU actually features a base clock speed of 2.3 GHz that is 200 MHz lower than the vanilla Ryzen 9 7945HX, but the boost frequency remains the same at 5.4 GHz. So it is 2.3 for base.
Now it remains to be seen how AMD's 'PPM Provisioning file' and the '3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer' drivers work in tandem with Microsoft's Game Mode. And does the OS really park the CCD without the 3D V-Cache, when a game doesn't require it ?
So the L3 cache on this SKU appears to be 128 MB (96+32), plus 16 for L2 cache, thus giving a total of 144 MB.
While AMD and Microsoft REALLY need to address all the still existing improper thread scheduling edge cases on these heterogeneous dual-CCD X3D chips, it's REALLY not the end of the world to have to spend like ≈1min manually parking those cores before you start a gaming session that could literally last hours, should you happen to encounter one of said still extant edge cases. 🤷 -
deksman oofdragon said:Why a super multi core CPU even exist as a mobile chip? If AMD was to launch a 7600X3D it would be right there with the 7950X3D, if you need super multi core (aka productivity time saver) you go desktop, if you go mobile you want battery time. Like is someone really flying on vacation but can't live withouth both super multi core and gaming for a week? For god sake ..
Because there are people like me who do content creation, productivity and gaming on the go... as such we need a desktop replacement which we can move from one location to the next.
So, this chip is intended for such individuals.