AMD Confirms Zen 3 Compatibility on B550, X570 Motherboards

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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    "For pre-500 motherboards, vendors could easily weed out support for the older Ryzen 1000 or 2000-series lineups to make space for Zen 3 via an optional firmware update. Existing owners may not complain if the compromise offered them a cheap path to upgrade to Zen 3. "


    This is a question I hope TomsHardware, as well as all of the other reputable review sites, pose to all of the AIBs, and post an article about that. They all need a statement on record as to why they will not remove Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series support and make a BIOS which will accept Ryzen 3000 and 4000 series chips on 128Mbit boards, mostly the X370 and X470 series. We need to know if this is due to an explicit order from AMD, or if they simply want to sell more motherboards. The way AMD makes it sound in their announcement, it's a direct order.
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  • Chris Fetters
    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    "For pre-500 motherboards, vendors could easily weed out support for the older Ryzen 1000 or 2000-series lineups to make space for Zen 3 via an optional firmware update. Existing owners may not complain if the compromise offered them a cheap path to upgrade to Zen 3. "


    This is a question I hope TomsHardware, as well as all of the other reputable review sites, pose to all of the AIBs, and post an article about that. They all need a statement on record as to why they will not remove Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series support and make a BIOS which will accept Ryzen 3000 and 4000 series chips on 128Mbit boards, mostly the X370 and X470 series. We need to know if this is due to an explicit order from AMD, or if they simply want to sell more motherboards. The way AMD makes it sound in their announcement, it's a direct order.
    This is literally no different than when the 300 series lost official support for 3rd Gen (look at that graph again buddy). The OEMs can do whatever they want (just look at A320, where AMD was absolutely explicit they weren't supporting).
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  • JarredWaltonGPU
    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    This is a question I hope TomsHardware, as well as all of the other reputable review sites, pose to all of the AIBs, and post an article about that. They all need a statement on record as to why they will not remove Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series support and make a BIOS which will accept Ryzen 3000 and 4000 series chips on 128Mbit boards, mostly the X370 and X470 series. We need to know if this is due to an explicit order from AMD, or if they simply want to sell more motherboards. The way AMD makes it sound in their announcement, it's a direct order.
    I'm guessing a big part of it is that updating the BIOS code of all older motherboards would be time consuming. Sure, a company can earn some good will by doing that, but ASRock, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc. would really love people to upgrade to a new motherboard and CPU rather than trying to make a new CPU work in an old motherboard and potentially causing more support headaches.

    Put another way, lots of people complain about Intel making new chipsets that aren't backward compatible with older CPUs, and likewise making new CPUs that aren't backward compatible with old chipsets. However, I don't think I've ever heard a motherboard company complain about Intel's approach to planned platform obsolescence.
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  • InvalidError
    JarredWaltonGPU said:
    However, I don't think I've ever heard a motherboard company complain about Intel's approach to planned platform obsolescence.
    Personally, I much prefer shorter platform cycles if it means I don't have to worry about what supports what. Not a fan of A supports B with caveats 1, 2, 3c, 4a, 4d, 5 and 6c.
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  • TCA_ChinChin
    InvalidError said:
    Personally, I much prefer shorter platform cycles if it means I don't have to worry about what supports what. Not a fan of A supports B with caveats 1, 2, 3c, 4a, 4d, 5 and 6c.
    New stuff works with new stuff with no worry. If you want new stuff to work with old stuff then it requires some reading.

    Edit: If you don't want complicated choices, then you don't have to make them. Some people like making those choices though.
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  • InvalidError
    TCA_ChinChin said:
    New stuff works with new stuff with no worry. If you want new stuff to work with old stuff then it requires some reading.
    Except that people who aren't interested in the X570 still have no "no worry" new stuff (B550) to pick from for another month.
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  • Deicidium369
    InvalidError said:
    Personally, I much prefer shorter platform cycles if it means I don't have to worry about what supports what. Not a fan of A supports B with caveats 1, 2, 3c, 4a, 4d, 5 and 6c.
    I never upgrade - I replace. The i9900K / Dual 2080Ti will be replaced completely with Rocket Lake S and Ampere. Nothing will be retained from the old system. Licenses for Office Pro & Visio will be transferred to new system - but OS, Malwarebytes, etc will stay on the system they were installed on.
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  • InvalidError
    Deicidium369 said:
    I never upgrade - I replace. The i9900K / Dual 2080Ti will be replaced completely with Rocket Lake S and Ampere.
    Bold statement on the CPU side. I'd wait to see if Willow Cove's IPC gains can offset its likely significant clock frequency deficit from getting back-ported from 10nm+++ (10nm++ is the process Intel had hoped to have for Ice Lake / Sunny Cove years ago, Willow Cove would be one step after that) to 14nm++++++ first!
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  • mitch074
    The way I read it is that it depends on the amount of flash BIOS available on the motherboard. Most vendors already made smaller UEFI systems to accommodate Zen 2's original AGESA, and then AMD unified their AGESA the UEFI images sizes got quite a bit smaller. For those who already did the work, adding support for Zen 3 may not be so much of a stretch.
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  • MasterMadBones
    I was looking to upgrade my 2600X to a Ryzen 4000 CPU, so this sounds disappointing. I am at the mercy of ASUS now, and they haven't released any updates for my motherboard since November...
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