AMD Ryzen Z1 and Z1 Extreme APUs Debut in Asus ROG Ally Handheld

Asus ROG Ally
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After a confusing April Fools' Day announcement, Asus is making it 100% clear. The Asus ROG Ally gaming handheld is real, it's coming soon, and it comes in configurations with two different custom AMD processors.

Those two processors are the AMD Ryzen Z1 and Ryzen Z1 Extreme. Both use Zen 4 cores with RDNA graphics on a 4nm process. The regular Z1 is a 6-core, 12-thread CPU and has four RDNA 3 compute units for graphics, while the Z1 Extreme bumps that to eight cores and 16 threads with 12 RDNA 3 compute units. On the Steam Deck, Valve's Ryzen-based Aerith SoC has four cores, eight threads and eight RDNA 2 compute units for graphics.

(Image credit: AMD)
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  • salgado18
    When you get to review it, please try to get both versions.for the benchmarks. The faster one has 3x the gpu power of the slower (which I don't think makes any sense).
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  • ezst036
    I am mainly curious to see how well it works if you try putting SteamOS on it.
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  • thestryker
    I'm once again disappointed by the way AMD does the lower CPU core count IGP. While I think they should both be 12 cutting it down to 4 seems rather ridiculous especially for a handheld device. Ideally you'd want the fewest number of very efficient CPU cores with the highest possible IGP.
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  • citral23
    Sorry but the lower end one is clearly not a custom gaming apu with the cpu cores/gpu cus imbalance, marketing bs.

    Which makes me highly doubtful the better one is a custom gaming apu either.

    Could turn out the deck's apu which is a true custom gaming apu, performs favorably at lower tdps tbh. We'll see.
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  • hannibal
    Most likely $999 to $1099 for the extreme version and $499 to $599 for normal version…
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  • PEnns
    OK, somebody explain to me the following: How is this expensive "gaming" thing is different from gaming on a high-end smart phone?? It's almost the same size too.

    Sure, it has better controls, but what else?? At least your smart phone can do 50 other very useful things and has up to 1 TB of storage..., but what can this very expensive toy do beside gaming?? And besides, even the screen size is almost the same!

    As to the versions that cost around $2000...seriously? How about a fully loaded laptop or a PC instead??
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  • bit_user
    salgado18 said:
    When you get to review it, please try to get both versions.for the benchmarks. The faster one has 3x the gpu power of the slower (which I don't think makes any sense).
    Exactly. The GPU in the non-Extreme version seems too weak. Should be 6 or 8 CUs. 4 sounds like a bad joke.

    I've seen a slide from AMD showing the relative average performance, where the non-Extreme seems at the lower end of viable. However, it would be telling to see the 1% outliers. I'll bet it turns into a slideshow, at some points.

    citral23 said:
    Sorry but the lower end one is clearly not a custom gaming apu with the cpu cores/gpu cus imbalance, marketing bs.
    Yes. If it's not meant to be for gaming, then that would explain the imbalance.
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  • citral23
    PEnns said:
    OK, somebody explain to me the following: How is this expensive "gaming" thing is different from gaming on a high-end smart phone?? It's almost the same size too.

    Sure, it has better controls, but what else?? At least your smart phone can do 50 other very useful things and has up to 1 TB of storage..., but what can this very expensive toy do beside gaming?? And besides, even the screen size is almost the same!

    As to the versions that cost around $2000...seriously? How about a fully loaded laptop or a PC instead??
    Errr... News Flash: Your phone doesn't run PC games
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  • bigdragon
    I'm surprised at the graphics differences between the AMD normal and extreme chips. There's a 25% difference in CPU cores but a 66% difference in IGP cores. That doesn't seem right. The 50% cache difference is also a bit alarming. I would have expected closer numbers.

    Steam Deck is a product designed to compete in the broader console and handheld gaming market. It steps into a market that Sony vacated and that Nintendo easily dominates. Enough performance, accessible price, capable design, and large game library creates success. I think Asus is going way more niche with the Ally. Niche means expensive, limited, and tempermental to me. Seeing the XG Mobile support tells me Asus thinks their market is a bunch of bullets on a whiteboard rather than the same people Sony and Nintendo tried/try to attract.

    hannibal said:
    Most likely $999 to $1099 for the extreme version and $499 to $599 for normal version…
    You forgot to add the ROG tax!That will likely bump it up to $799.99 for the normal version and $1299.99 for the extreme version. Asus is not a company that likes to compete on price. The Ally will also need to be supported by a massive marketing budget to gain the kind of adoption numbers Asus likely wants to see.
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  • bit_user
    bigdragon said:
    Enough performance, accessible price, capable design, and large game library creates success. I think Asus is going way more niche with the Ally. Niche means expensive, limited, and tempermental to me. Seeing the XG Mobile support tells me Asus thinks their market is a bunch of bullets on a whiteboard rather than the same people Sony and Nintendo tried/try to attract.
    Given that it runs Windows11, it seems to me the "library" they're going after is the majority of Windows games.

    In this regard, I think even the Extreme is still a little underpowered, as it seems essentially like a RX 6400. That's not exactly the ideal card for 1080p gaming.
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