Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang Thinks AMD's Radeon VII Is 'Underwhelming'

Nathaniel Mott
Freelance News & Features Writer

Nathaniel Mott is a freelance news and features writer for Tom's Hardware US, covering breaking news, security, and the silliest aspects of the tech industry.

  • SkyBill40
    Why so salty, Jensen? You made an awful lot of unsubstantiated claims but that's nothing new coming from you. Are you going to support them with actual data and verifiable evidence or are we supposed to just take you for your word... as untrustworthy as that happens to be?

    I say this as an Nvidia owner going back several cards. Your schtick is tired, man.
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  • redit
    Sounds like Nvidia might be getting a bit nervous. Vega vii doesn't have to be better than anything. It only has to offer better bang for the buck. Time will tell. Just ask Intel.
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  • siman0
    yeah the radon 7 is a little disappointing with current information. But we really don't know what its able to do quite yet. IMHO AMD should have been talking about its navi architecture allot more, and if its going to try and hang on with the Polaris rererefresh this year, its going to have problems. Well if Nvidia can get its shit together and release good mid tier cards. freesync works... Nvidia might have problems with it, because they didn't and still don't want to use it; but it does work. Will also state it also works better than gsync at least with my setups.
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  • bigdragon
    I think Nvidia is upset that developers have screwed them over with the ray tracing and DLSS stuff. Nobody wants to properly implement support for these new Nvidia-only technologies given how few devices they actually work on. Nvidia, EA, and friends can show all the tech demos they want -- none of it matters when the end product is downgraded from the tech demos. AMD's dismissal of Nvidia's vision for the future of graphics doesn't help Nvidia move the market in the direction they want.
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  • TechyInAZ
    Man the salt is everywhere this time. I think your right redit, Nvidia does seem nervous.
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  • jimmysmitty
    21663950 said:
    Sounds like Nvidia might be getting a bit nervous. Vega vii doesn't have to be better than anything. It only has to offer better bang for the buck. Time will tell. Just ask Intel.

    Except right now we have a good idea. Lisa said 30% better on average than Vega 64. The RTX 2080 FE (and I am sure some AiB cards) is on average 41% better than Vega 64 (used Anadtech benchmarks at 4K). That means on average the RTX 2080 will be around 11% better than the Vega VII. If at the same price, $699, the RTX 2080 will be the better value. If priced higher it will make sense.

    I am not sure AMD will have as much price wiggle room either as HBM is much more expensive compared to GDDR6. Add in that retailers will price gouge the GPU to start since its "new" and it might not hold the bang for buck much.

    In reality AMD needs a new GPU uArch. GCN has lived well past its prime.

    21663997 said:
    I think Nvidia is upset that developers have screwed them over with the ray tracing and DLSS stuff. Nobody wants to properly implement support for these new Nvidia-only technologies given how few devices they actually work on. Nvidia, EA, and friends can show all the tech demos they want -- none of it matters when the end product is downgraded from the tech demos. AMD's dismissal of Nvidia's vision for the future of graphics doesn't help Nvidia move the market in the direction they want.

    AMD will eventually do ray tracing as well. There has never been a time when both vendors jump on the latest and greatest support wise, it takes a few years and generations to fully adopt. Tesselation was similar. AMD jumped on it pretty fast and supported it better to start. Now its in every game and both parties support it fully.

    I like nVidias idea though. Hardware support for ray tracing will be superior to software support. I wouldn't doubt that AMD is working on some sort of hardware design to support it as well.
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  • agentnathan009
    I think Jensen Huang is underwhelming... What an arrogant bastard. He's probably scared because nVidia lost half it's value from September to November in stock market. He needs to man up and focus on selling their products rather than bashing the competition that is gaining on him and has open source at that (no egregious royalty fees).
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  • rabbit4me1
    Makes me wish mean Gene was still alive and that way he could take on the two cards Head to Head like an old school wrestling match
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  • animalosity
    I don't even know why his negative connotation commentary was necessary. Even if AMD comes close to the 2080 in terms of performance, at $699 MSRP with the obvious AIB partners inevitably coming up with even better 3rd party cooling options is still $100 cheaper than a 2080. Ray tracing has already proven to be a bit of a joke which Jensen admits that they weren't ready for. Neither is any developer ready to jump on that bandwagon yet (if at all) either. So once again, AMD appears to offer a better bang for buck product.

    Sounds like Huang is simply jealous and perhaps threatened by AMD completely utterly dominating the mid range market as well as being the first to 7NM. Even Nvidia has to outsource that to Samsung...
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  • jaexyr
    Kinda like the Turing vs the Pascal?
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