Samsung, Intel Tell Court That Qualcomm Abused FRAND Patents To Eliminate Competition

Samsung and Intel recently filed two amicus briefs in the FTC’s antitrust case against Qualcomm, accusing Qualcomm of violating Fair, Reasonable And Non-Discriminatory (FRAND) patent terms and legally excluding competitors from the market through the use of its own baseband processor patents. Samsung also claimed that Qualcomm stopped it from selling its chips to third-party vendors. Qualcomm has previously called this allegation “false.”

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  • InvalidError
    I wonder how many of those patents are genuinely patentable. Most of the process behind generating wireless signals and decoding them is pure math which shouldn't be patentable in the first place.
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  • vern72
    Can anyone say "RAMBus"?
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  • falchard
    What Qualcomm is doing is perfectly legal. The logic behind the anti-trust cases are flawed. I think the wins against Qualcomm just show national bias. Like Samsung winning in South Korea, and Apple winning in California. In the technology space, there are those who push the technology forward and get patents for their work. Companies like IBM, Microsoft, and Qualcomm. Then there are companies that license their patents to develop their hardware, like Intel, Apple, and Samsung. Going after a company like Qualcomm over a modest fee for using their patents is just a stepping stone to reducing costs for using technology developed by other companies and undermines this type of trading. If Qualcomm where to lose these cases, expect Microsoft to also be sued for the same thing. Eventually leading up to these companies keeping their technology in-house instead of letting other companies use their patents.
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  • mrmez
    Is it, tho???

    BlackBerry, Apple, Samsung, Intel, Broadcom, EU, USA, Japan, S.Korea, China v. Qualcomm...
    The numbers are stacking against them for the exact same thing, are they all wrong and QC's lawyers just can't catch a break?
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  • blppt
    Hrm, it appears the word "irony" does not appear in Intel's dictionary.
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  • falchard
    When a company wins a case like Blackberry did against Qualcomm, everyone comes out of the woodworks to get their share.
    To put it simply Qualcomm developed such a superior technology that these companies felt they cannot compete in the marketplace using an alternative. Qualcomm asks for a cut based on the edge they provide, and these companies refuse to give them that cut yet still want to use their superior technology. The only one with a mild grievance would be Intel and competing modem makers as they make such an inferior product they cannot compete.
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  • vaughn2k
    Intel finally get to taste its own medicine when they kept their technology away from nVidia for developing chipsets and IGP for Intel motherboards (March 2010)..
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  • mrmez
    All comes back to FRAND, which I believe is legally binding?
    As far as I understand, QC charges Apple (for example) more for it's patents than it does other companies. Royalties also based on phone value. So buy a phone with a bigger screen or capacity, and QC gets more money.

    Furthermore the 'handset tax' charges Apple a royalty even if the phone has no QC hardware.
    Other agreements prevented Apple from using competing technology (wimax).
    All this adds up to something that is not fair or reasonable.

    If you read into the history it's pretty dirty and complicated.

    The human race is largely where it is because we've been able to work together and cooperate. FRAND is a good way of saying it's not a case of 'money over everything.'
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  • InvalidError
    19695830 said:
    When a company wins a case like Blackberry did against Qualcomm, everyone comes out of the woodworks to get their share.
    When a company like BB wins a FRAND, over-reaching or anti-competitive licensing agreement dispute against a vendor like Qualcomm, everyone else stuck with such an agreement comes out of the woodworks because they don't want to continue over-paying for their similar license agreements with that same provider now that there is a court precedent saying that this vendor has been involved in unfair, unjust, unreasonable licensing. Being stuck with an inflated "Qualcomm tax" when your competitors aren't puts you at a competitive disadvantage.

    Why should Apple owe anything to Qualcomm on products that don't use any Qualcomm chips or IP-cores? When Apple picks a competitor's chip, whatever applicable royalties to Qualcomm's patents are already built into that other chip's price, there is no reason for Apple to pay twice for the same thing. Companies shouldn't be able to double-dip on patent royalties.
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  • dstarr3
    With FRANDs like these, who needs hegemony!

    ...I'll show myself out.
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