WD Plots A Course To 40TB HDDs With MAMR

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  • jossrik
    20270334 said:
    WD has selected MAMR (Microwave Assisted Magnetic Recording) as its new HDD recording technology, which the company claims can enable up to 40TB HDDs by 2025.

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    I'm still waiting for inexpensive 5Tb drives or such, and by that I mean we've had 75$ 3Tb drives for years and years, higher density, the price goes up and up. Ya, they do sell 12Tb drives, but you pay so much more for them that you might as well get a NAS and fill it with cheaper drives, or even cheaper, build a NAS. When will these awesome drives trickle down for mainstream use?
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  • bit_user
    It amazes me to ponder the level of precision in modern HDDs. I wonder if there are any other mass-produced mechanical devices with such precision.

    What's more, in 5 years of continuous operation (some warranties are that long), a 7.2 kRPM drive will spin almost 19 billion revolutions, and still have sufficiently low jitter that you can seek to within nanometers of any location on disk, in about 1/100th of a second or less. These are true marvels of modern science, engineering, and manufacturing, IMO. And yet, they're frequently derided as spinning rust.
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  • dsdsds
    Yup. Everything BIT_USER said x2.
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  • pjmelect
    There is no way that I would buy a drive that uses Shingled Magnetic Recording, I imagine that these drives will be fitted in cheap laptops built down to a price for unsuspecting buyers. The performance of these drives will be appalling.
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  • ima_nerd
    ive pulled drives out of 15 year old ibm servers that still worked like a champ.
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  • bit_user
    20270651 said:
    There is no way that I would buy a drive that uses Shingled Magnetic Recording, I imagine that these drives will be fitted in cheap laptops built down to a price for unsuspecting buyers. The performance of these drives will be appalling.
    They're currently targeted mostly at backup and cold storage. They're actually fine, as long as your writes are sequentially.

    If you try to use them as a general-purpose HDD, then you're correct that their appalling random write performance is too big of a liability.

    For those who don't know, these drives have (typically 15 to 40 MB) zones that overlap and therefore must be written only in their entirety. If you want to write only a subset of a zone, then you must read-modify-write the whole thing. This is the main reason for their poor random write performance. And as the areal density increases, zones sizes will only go up (it varies from one drive to another).
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  • dstarr3
    SMR? smh
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  • cryoburner
    The company isn't telling us what capacity the leading models will ship in, but given the capabilities of the new technology, WD could quickly distance itself from competitors.
    You should be able to estimate that base on the "Capacity Growth Outlook" graph they provided, which shows PMR density leveling off over the next few years, and maximum MAMR capacities continuing to grow at roughly 2TB per year in their place. That would imply that there will be no major surge in capacity, but that MAMR will simply take over as gains with PMR slow. Their graph doesn't show MAMR hitting the 20GB mark until at least 2020, so if the first MAMR drives appear prior to that, we can assume their maximum capacity will likely be lower, maybe 16-18TB, and probably at a price of over $500, like their current 12TB drives.

    I would also take their suggestion that this will enable them to produce 40TB drives by 2025 with a grain of salt. That same graph suspiciously needs to curve sharply upward during the 2020s to get there. It's likely just a suggestion meant to instill confidence in investors, and they can be reasonably sure that no one will hold them to it 8 years down the line. I also have doubts that they will continue to maintain the same lead in terms of cost over flash storage over that time span, especially when you consider that for high-capacity bulk data storage, you don't need the same level of performance or write cycles found in most existing SSDs. With the slow rate of advancement in hard drive densities, it seems quite unlikely that they will hold a 10x cost advantage over flash storage in 2025, and SSDs designed specifically for bulk storage might potentially even make them obsolete by that point.

    20270651 said:
    There is no way that I would buy a drive that uses Shingled Magnetic Recording, I imagine that these drives will be fitted in cheap laptops built down to a price for unsuspecting buyers. The performance of these drives will be appalling.
    One thing they could potentially do is make them into hybrid drives with a suitably large flash buffer built in. So, for example, the drive could have 128GB of flash memory, which could be written to quickly, and then the drive could write that data to the platters in the background, whenever it's convenient. Files with frequent random accesses could remain exclusively in the flash memory. So you could have your high capacity multi-terabyte drive, but you would also have much faster performance than a typical drive under most common usage scenarios.
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  • AnimeMania
    20270544 said:
    It amazes me to ponder the level of precision in modern HDDs. I wonder if there are any other mass-produced mechanical devices with such precision.

    What's more, in 5 years of continuous operation (some warranties are that long), a 7.2 kRPM drive will spin almost 19 billion revolutions, and still have sufficiently low jitter that you can seek to within nanometers of any location on disk, in about 1/100th of a second or less. These are true marvels of modern science, engineering, and manufacturing, IMO. And yet, they're frequently derided as spinning rust.

    They could take some of that tech and reinvent the inkjet and 3D printer heads.
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  • JonDol
    @AnimeMania: I'd be happy with less than that, like improving the life time... I used my previous printer mainly for scanning things about less than once a week and it died after 7 years. I think that it is too short considering my usage, compared to other mechanical HDDs I have that still work after 14 years and which were used for long months in 24h/7 running machines.

    Other than that, there are long years since the storage area (whether mechanical or flash) is the one carrying the most innovations year over year (of all the parts of a computer) so I'm a bit less amazed, I think, than our colleague bit_user, about these products reliability. A completely different approach vs the planned obsolescence we usually see with the printers... Add to that the impossibility of using non manufacturer (read low cost) ink cartridges and we'll have a very happy picture.
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