AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D faceoff — the battle of AMD's fastest gaming chips

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D vs AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Faceoff
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If you're looking for the fastest gaming chips on the market, AMD has no peer: In fact, the company's own Ryzen 9 9950X3D vs Ryzen 7 9800X3D is really the only competition that most hardcore gamers care about - Intel isn't a factor with its latest-gen chips due to lackluster performance on the gaming front.

At first glance, comparing the $470 AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D with the flagship $670 Ryzen 9 9950X3D might seem like an uneven match. After all, the Ryzen 9 9950X3D commands a $200 higher price point and boasts twice the number of cores, which naturally suggests superior performance.

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  • A Stoner
    What would happen if you turned off the non 3D cache CCD in the 9950X3D with respect to gaming and other metrics. The 9950X3D has a higher clock, and if the second CCD is no longer there confusing things, does it pick up a benefit from that higher clock?
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  • snemarch
    So, how exactly are the X3D variants "superior"? Their advantage over the non-vcache variants are extremely small (sometimes close to run-to-run variance / rounding error), and given the increased cost... ugh.

    I've generally preferred AMD CPUs for a couple of generations, and there's some really niche computing scenarios where the vcache chips shine – but I wish reviewers and tech influencers would scale back on the superlatives given how little real-world gain the hefty extra pricetag brings.
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  • Heat_Fan89
    AMD all the way or GTFO. I chose the 9800X3D over the 9950X3D because it's still the best for gaming. I refused to consider Intel for gaming.
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  • hotaru251
    snemarch said:
    So, how exactly are the X3D variants "superior"? Their advantage over the non-vcache variants are extremely small (sometimes close to run-to-run variance / rounding error), and given the increased cost... ugh.
    its up to how much benefit the cache gives you.

    Various titles/applications will barely benefit, or have a actual large benefit. It all just depends on how much the program uses the cache.

    most stuff won't really use it well but when it does the improvement is substantial.


    Do most people really need the extra cache? no, but it is an option if you know oyu'll benefit from it.

    quite a number of older games benefit more than newer games.

    WoW, MS flight sim, factorio (and other games that are mostly entirely cpu & ram focused)for example is a game that LOVES the cache to point you can get a 50-60%+ fps bump vs a non x3d chip.

    basically you would want to look if a game/application you care about uses it much to make it worth the extra cost. (again msot wont)
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  • SyCoREAPER
    It's not a tie, it comes down to what you want out of it.

    Gaming, lower power consumption and lower thermals, 9800X3D. Pay less.

    Want to game and use it for productivity? 9950X3D. Pay more. Get more.
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  • JayGau
    snemarch said:
    So, how exactly are the X3D variants "superior"? Their advantage over the non-vcache variants are extremely small (sometimes close to run-to-run variance / rounding error), and given the increased cost... ugh.

    I've generally preferred AMD CPUs for a couple of generations, and there's some really niche computing scenarios where the vcache chips shine – but I wish reviewers and tech influencers would scale back on the superlatives given how little real-world gain the hefty extra pricetag brings.
    What are you talking about? Did you read the article? The 9950X3D is 30% more performant in average in games as compared to the 9950X. This not "extremely small".

    The X3Ds are gaming chips by the way. So if you are talking about productivity tasks then you should know that those CPUs are not advertised for that and if you are not gaming, then yeah, don't waste your money on a X3D. Otherwise, they are vastly superior to their non-X3D counterparts.

    Zen 5 has been a very disappointing generation, people even talking about a flop because of the very little improvement over Zen 4, except for the 9800X3D, 9900X3D and 9950X3D that are praised for being by far the best gaming chips ever made. So I don't know where your "very small advantage" is coming from, but either you are terribly wrong or there's some big conspiracy involving AMD, computer websites and pretty much every tech youtuber that managed to fool us all.
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  • HideOut
    Admin said:
    We put the Ryzen 9 9950X3D and Ryzen 7 9800X3D through a six-round faceoff to determine the winner.

    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D vs AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D Faceoff : Read more
    Didnt they come out like 8 months ago? I mean these reviews have been everywhere for most of the year....
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  • Pemalite
    JayGau said:
    What are you talking about? Did you read the article? The 9950X3D is 30% more performant in average in games as compared to the 9950X. This not "extremely small".

    The X3Ds are gaming chips by the way. So if you are talking about productivity tasks then you should know that those CPUs are not advertised for that and if you are not gaming, then yeah, don't waste your money on a X3D. Otherwise, they are vastly superior to their non-X3D counterparts.

    Zen 5 has been a very disappointing generation, people even talking about a flop because of the very little improvement over Zen 4, except for the 9800X3D, 9900X3D and 9950X3D that are praised for being by far the best gaming chips ever made. So I don't know where your "very small advantage" is coming from, but either you are terribly wrong or there's some big conspiracy involving AMD, computer websites and pretty much every tech youtuber that managed to fool us all.
    PC's are multi-use devices.

    Not all of us are gamers OR productivity users.

    Some of us actually do both... And if you do both, it's a no brainer to go with the 9950X3D over the lower core-count 9800X3D.
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  • Mr Majestyk
    JayGau said:
    What are you talking about? Did you read the article? The 9950X3D is 30% more performant in average in games as compared to the 9950X. This not "extremely small".

    The X3Ds are gaming chips by the way. So if you are talking about productivity tasks then you should know that those CPUs are not advertised for that and if you are not gaming, then yeah, don't waste your money on a X3D. Otherwise, they are vastly superior to their non-X3D counterparts.

    Zen 5 has been a very disappointing generation, people even talking about a flop because of the very little improvement over Zen 4, except for the 9800X3D, 9900X3D and 9950X3D that are praised for being by far the best gaming chips ever made. So I don't know where your "very small advantage" is coming from, but either you are terribly wrong or there's some big conspiracy involving AMD, computer websites and pretty much every tech youtuber that managed to fool us all.
    This gen X3D have removed the penalty for productivity that past gens had, making the claim these are just gaming chips spurious now. You can literally have your cake and eat it too. The 9800X3D trounces the 7800X3D for productivity, but is not appreciably faster for gaming. Also there are many productivity apps that like cache, eg OpenFOAM and other fluid sim software. Just look at the massive difference v-cache makes to EPYC performance.

    I don't even see the point of the 9950X and 9900X now the X3D variants are no worse in productivity.
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  • JayGau
    Mr Majestyk said:
    This gen X3D have removed the penalty for productivity that past gens had, making the claim these are just gaming chips spurious now. You can literally have your cake and eat it too. The 9800X3D trounces the 7800X3D for productivity, but is not appreciably faster for gaming. Also there are many productivity apps that like cache, eg OpenFOAM and other fluid sim software. Just look at the massive difference v-cache makes to EPYC performance.

    I don't even see the point of the 9950X and 9900X now the X3D variants are no worse in productivity.
    I was replying to the guy who was claiming that there was very little advantage for the X3D over the regular chips (which is obviously false). But the X3Ds are coming with a higher price tag as compared to the non-X3D counterparts, so if you are not gaming and don't use anything that benefits from the extra cache then you pay the extra money for nothing. The highest benefit of a X3D is gaming. But I agree that if you need both productivity and gaming the Zen 5 X3Ds are a no brainer since they no longer have the thermal limitation of the two previous gens. I know, I bought a 9800X3D two weeks after its launch.
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