New report blames Phison's pre-release firmware for SSD failures — not Microsoft’s August patch for Windows

Phison's PS5028-E28 SSD controller
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The curious case of failing SSDs, following Microsoft’s August security patch for Windows, has once again taken an unexpected turn. According to the Chinese Facebook group PCDIY!, the root cause of the issue stems from pre-release engineering firmware on certain SSDs, which may have been triggered by the Windows 11 updates.

In a Facebook post, group admin Rose Lee said that the issue has been identified and additionally verified by Phison engineers, thereby giving credibility to the claims. Lee explains that testing done by PCDIY! revealed the SSD crashes tied to the Windows 11 update were occurring on drives running pre-release engineering firmware, not the final production version.

Last month, it was reported that Microsoft’s August Windows 11 update was causing peculiar SSD failures. Users claimed that their drives were disappearing after heavy file transfers, with some systems unable to recover even after a reboot. In response, Phison issued a statement after conducting over 4,500 hours of testing, claiming it was unable to reproduce the reported failures. The company suggested that thermal issues could be a contributing factor and even recommended that users employ heatsinks to avoid overheating during heavy workloads.

Having said that, the back-and-forth between user reports, lab testing by Phison, and Microsoft’s denials highlights how complicated it can be to pinpoint the source of storage failures, particularly when firmware, hardware, and operating system updates overlap.

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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    Wait, so Microsoft and Phision were telling the truth, as well as the many people who were also unable to reproduce the issue with their own drives, myself included? Who knew it'd be essentially a manufacturing defect...
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  • adamXpeter
    Well, well, well, but how one gets an unofficial Phison firmware?
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  • CrazyCarrot911
    ...and my 4 PC's in the office running Samsung 990Pro 1TB must then have a Phison controller, as they tend to Crash-2-Bios with NVMe disppearing......

    irony aside, that is nonsense, it spans across all vendors meanwhile, they all have their piece of that cake, apparently. Phison may suffer the most but they are not alone.
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  • LabRat 891
    This reeks of coverup... This 'admission' mitigates liability to non-consumer pre-release products only.

    Especially after Phison started out admitting there might be an issue,
    then HARD 180s and denies it,
    and now are saying it's only pre-release units affected.

    That's 'legal team' involvement, IMO.


    TBQH, I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out this is an even-further reaching issue, well-beyond *just* Phison. -and, that Phison is panicking, merely because they're the first implicated.
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  • ezst036
    Haven't I been reading somewhere that more SSDs were afflicted than just Phison?
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  • Groveling_Wyrm
    JayzTwoCents has put out a video of how ssd's are failing him and shows a demonstration. You can find that HERE. He also lists other SSD's that are vulnerable.
    Reply
  • adamXpeter
    CrazyCarrot911 said:
    ...and my 4 PC's in the office running Samsung 990Pro 1TB must then have a Phison controller, as they tend to Crash-2-Bios with NVMe disppearing......

    irony aside, that is nonsense, it spans across all vendors meanwhile, they all have their piece of that cake, apparently. Phison may suffer the most but they are not alone.
    Check this article, and your drives: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/fake-samsung-ssds-found-at-etailer-then-benchmarked
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  • grilledfingers
    Then why did it impact my Kingston SNV2S1000G drive? It locks it up with constant 100% utilization while infrequently writing/reading data.
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  • adamXpeter
    grilledfingers said:
    Then why did it impact my Kingston SNV2S1000G drive? It locks it up with constant 100% utilization while infrequently writing/reading data.
    I don't buy two kinds of SSD for leaving me/partners early: Kingston and ADATA*. For example, I haven't left by a Kioxia or Samsung SSD yet.

    If it locks up then either it is full and you ran out of SLC cache, or it is giving subtle signs to leave ship while you can copy your data off to another one.

    *One ADATA left the chat without a warning, another one arrived DoA and ADATA did not want to replace it, the reseller gave back my money on their own, instantly spent on another brand.
    Reply