ChatGPT-6 Astra cracks 85-year-old 1941 Enigma-coded message in two days — autonomous AI coded its own simulator to crack code that was unsolved since it was shared online back in 2005

A WWII Enigma machine
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A German Army Enigma transmission from 85 years ago, known as the MVUEH message, has been cracked by GTP-Astra in two days, reports the Crypto Cella. MVUEH was sent by the German Army to the SS-Totenkopf (Death’s Head) Division on July 10, 1941, at the height of the Nazi military power in WWII. This uncracked Enigma message was shared with enthusiasts online in 2005, but its secrets had remained concealed until now.

Crypto Cellar researchers highlight that what Astra managed to do in just two days “would take a human researcher weeks or even months.” Currently, the awestruck researchers are still picking through logs to determine how Astra managed this feat and how it did it so quickly.

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  • evilpaul
    I'm not a cryptographer, but could they have tried asking the Germans? I bet somebody would know.
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  • jeremyj_83
    I remember seeing a video maybe 10 years ago by a computer scientist and breaking Enigma. They coded a program (I think in C++ or Java) that did a brute force method to breaking the encryption. Using nothing more than a midrange laptop with an i5-4200u the program was able to break a 1940 era Enigma (3 roters out of 5 choices) in several minutes. I guess the amazing thing was ChatGPT wrote a program? Thing is a lot of people use AI to do the initial code creation now anyways. IMO this message has probably been cracked multiple times but people didn't care.
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  • derekullo
    jeremyj_83 said:
    I remember seeing a video maybe 10 years ago by a computer scientist and breaking Enigma. They coded a program (I think in C++ or Java) that did a brute force method to breaking the encryption. Using nothing more than a midrange laptop with an i5-4200u the program was able to break a 1940 era Enigma (3 roters out of 5 choices) in several minutes. I guess the amazing thing was ChatGPT wrote a program? Thing is a lot of people use AI to do the initial code creation now anyways. IMO this message has probably been cracked multiple times but people didn't care.
    You don't really need to crack it ... I'm sure some one kept the code book logs of what the enigma settings were for each day.
    Here's April 1940's codes
    https://www.101computing.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/enigma-code-book.pngThe Enigma machine was used between 1939 - 1945 during WW2.
    As long as you know the day a message was sent/encrypted a 2190 line excel file could contain all of the settings for the rotor order, ring setting, rotor starting positions, and plug-board connections to decrypt any message you want.

    Even without knowing the day a message was sent modern computers could just try every day's settings in a few milliseconds and decrypt it.
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  • Air2004
    Admin said:
    A German Army Enigma transmission from 85 years ago, known as the MVUEH message, has been cracked by GTP-Astra in just two days.

    ChatGPT-6 Astra cracks 1941 Enigma-coded message in two days : Read more
    Now, that there's funny 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
    (Thank you for that)
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  • Joey2121
    Now could we focus on cancer research using AI please?
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  • derekullo
    Joey2121 said:
    Now could we focus on cancer research using AI please?
    What makes you think AI isn't being used for cancer research?

    Just because a historian is familiar with using AI for cryptology doesn't mean he has also the medical background to instantly pivot to cancer research.

    I'm pretty good with creating prompts with Gemini along with using Hashcat and JackTheRipper, but I wouldn't even know what questions to ask for cancer research.
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