Musk's concerns over Google DeepMind 'AI Dictatorship' revealed in emails from 2016 — communications released during the recent OpenAI court case

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Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI has opened a can of worms, as emails between OpenAI co-founders Greg Brockman, Ilya Sutskever, Sam Altman, and Musk himself have revealed turbulent behind-the-scenes drama. According to the Transformer, an email from Musk in 2016 said, “Deepmind [sic] is causing me extreme mental stress. If they win, it will be really bad news with their one mind to rule the world philosophy.” He further aired concerns that “Demis [Hassabis] could create an AGI dictatorship.”

Demis Hassabis is one of the founders of DeepMind, an artificial intelligence research firm founded in 2010, and acquired by Alphabet, Google’s parent company, in 2014. The success of DeepMind is probably one of the major reasons behind the founding of OpenAI.

Altman emailed Musk in May 2015, saying, “Been thinking a lot about whether it’s possible to stop humanity from developing AI. I think the answer is almost definitely not. If it’s going to happen anyway, it seems like it would be good for someone other than Google to do it first. Any thoughts on whether it would be good for YC [Y Combinator] to start a Manhattan Project for AI?” Musk responded with, “Probably worth a conversation.” And, after around six months, the company behind ChatGPT was founded.

Aside from this inter-company rivalry, there’s also some tension going on behind the scenes at OpenAI. Two co-founders — Greg Brockman and Ilya Sutskever — had concerns about Altman and Musk. In September 2017, they emailed Altman asking him why he wanted to be CEO of the company and mentioned that they didn’t fully trust his judgment. Simultaneously, they were skeptical of Musk’s intentions. They said that even though he (Musk) claims to not want control of the final AGI, the negotiations revealed that absolute control was crucial to him. So, they (Brockman and Sutskever) fear that the OpenAI’s structure could allow Elon Musk to be a dictator in the company, should he decide to become one.

The Transformer says that both of these emails did not sit well with their recipients. Shivon Zillis — another OpenAI board member and a close associate of Musk — updated him regarding her conversation with Altman. She said that Sam lost trust with his two other co-founders, Greg and Ilya, through the negotiation process, adding that he felt they were inconsistent and childish. As for Elon, he replied directly to the two and said that it was the final straw for him and that the group should look for funding on its own or let OpenAI remain as a nonprofit entity.

These emails reportedly happened between 2015 and 2018, when Musk was involved in OpenAI. Although it was founded as a nonprofit organization, OpenAI’s leadership team eventually realized that it would need billions to fund the massive computer power required to train its models. They realized that they needed to convert OpenAI to a for-profit entity to secure this funding, but negotiations between Musk, Altman, and its other board members faltered when they couldn’t agree on terms.

Eventually, Musk left OpenAI and founded his AI startup, xAI, which now has a 100,000-GPU-strong data center with a 150-MW power supply. As for OpenAI’s funds, Microsoft eventually stepped in 2019, when it invested a billion dollars in the company. Today, OpenAI is one of the leaders in the field, with ChatGPT, and Microsoft is using its technology as the basis for Copilot. It also plans to invest billions more, as the software giant sees a future in AI. On the other hand, Intel got left behind after it declined to purchase 15% of OpenAI for $1 billion in 2017, saying that the company didn’t see AI providing a return on investment anytime soon.

Jowi Morales
Contributing Writer

Jowi Morales is a tech enthusiast with years of experience working in the industry. He’s been writing with several tech publications since 2021, where he’s been interested in tech hardware and consumer electronics.

  • King_V
    Why are Musk's concerns of any actual concern to anyone besides himself?
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  • d0x360
    Like him or not the guy is no fool. He also seems to have clear intentions about doing things to benefit humanity that his love of trolling don't cancel out.

    Then his actions around AI, not wanting Google to be 1st, his time with OpenAI & reasons for leaving, his views on how AI needs to be open & actions since all point in 1 direction. The words richest man isn't just out to be even more richest, especially regarding something that is as important as AGI.

    So.. putting bias's aside from time and working together on something like this is the path. Who cares what his views are on XYZ when they don't even color views on ABC? I know I don't. I care about the stated mission, how to get from A-B, and how we can do that together which might just be a step towards regaining people's ability to work together despite differences.

    How are we supposed to end wars or progress as people if we can't even put aside differences in like 5 things that quite frankly aren't important in the grand scheme of existence especially over time? Society can't debate everything and slowly evolve, sometimes we need to just bite the bullet & decide to march forward. We can revisit and amend later but the foundation needs to be laid now.

    AI & what we decide about it early will be around in 20, 100, 1000 years but my views on taxes, gender, media, social media or whatever else will ALL be outmoded in 20 years regardless of what those views are TODAY. Enough division...
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  • Notton
    d0x360 said:
    Like him or not the guy is no fool. He also seems to have clear intentions about doing things to benefit humanity that his love of trolling don't cancel out.
    Yeah, they call that a savior complex.
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  • spongiemaster
    Ferlucio said:
    You can hate the man as much as you want but if your IQ was above room temperature you'd be able to acknowledge that any concerns regarding AI are legit concerns that at minimum should not be dismissed lightly.
    His concerns weren't about AI, they were about Google dominating the AI market. He wasn't being altruistic, he was concerned about his bank account.
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  • USAFRet
    Musk: "My AI is perfect and pristine. Everyone else's is de debbil"
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  • ezst036
    Google is genuinely creepy. Musk only just so happens to be making a completely accurate statement that, absent Musk, is still accurate about Google's creep factor. When it comes to our data, Google looks at our data like:

    Reply
  • hotaru251
    d0x360 said:
    He also seems to have clear intentions about doing things to benefit humanity that his love of trolling don't cancel out.
    could literally fix world hunger but decides to overpay and buy the trashbin that is twitter & push it into beign a sewer system.

    He's never cared about befitting humanity just what gets him attention.
    Reply
  • 3tank
    King_V said:
    Why are Musk's concerns of any actual concern to anyone besides himself?
    His comments very early on kind of infer he was not thinking of himself . That was at a time when the rest of us were entirely oblivious to what A.i was shaping into so I'm frankly glad there were people with some level with ethics to intervene so that there's not just one player in a market who traditionally doesn't have the best of intentions
    Reply
  • zircon2
    d0x360 said:
    Like him or not the guy is no fool. He also seems to have clear intentions about doing things to benefit humanity that his love of trolling don't cancel out.

    Then his actions around AI, not wanting Google to be 1st, his time with OpenAI & reasons for leaving, his views on how AI needs to be open & actions since all point in 1 direction. The words richest man isn't just out to be even more richest, especially regarding something that is as important as AGI.

    So.. putting bias's aside from time and working together on something like this is the path. Who cares what his views are on XYZ when they don't even color views on ABC? I know I don't. I care about the stated mission, how to get from A-B, and how we can do that together which might just be a step towards regaining people's ability to work together despite differences.

    How are we supposed to end wars or progress as people if we can't even put aside differences in like 5 things that quite frankly aren't important in the grand scheme of existence especially over time? Society can't debate everything and slowly evolve, sometimes we need to just bite the bullet & decide to march forward. We can revisit and amend later but the foundation needs to be laid now.

    AI & what we decide about it early will be around in 20, 100, 1000 years but my views on taxes, gender, media, social media or whatever else will ALL be outmoded in 20 years regardless of what those views are TODAY. Enough division...
    Oh great, another Musk apologist. „Enough division, we need to make the world a better place“. Who is sewing division? Musk with his aggressive rhetoric about trans people, the political left and other minorities, who currently censors the word „cisgender“ on his own platform yet doesn’t interfere with the worst antisemitic and racist posts coming from people supporting him? Or people calling out his dishonesty and hypocrisy regarding AI? His own companies were behind others like OpenAI and Google, so he called their systems into question so he could have time to get to their level (and make sure people like you would think about his own systems as safe).
    Reply
  • Dementoss
    Musk looks after number one, he doesn't want Google to dominate AI, because he wants to.

    Don't forget, he's got a trip to Mars to pay for...
    Reply