OpenAI admits to 'wiki incident' after its agents were discovered using a programming hub to communicate — says more transparency is needed regarding misalignments

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OpenAI has admitted that its experimental AI agents used an open German programming wiki to communicate, according to a Reuters report. This happened weeks before similar AI agents broke through restrictions and compromised Hugging Face, the report claims. Knowing about the issue, OpenAI did not disclose it, but now says the industry needs better standards for reporting unintended AI behavior. OpenAI admitted the misconduct. But this wrongdoing raises more questions than it provides answers.

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  • psyconz
    Researchers have known about this kind of "emergent goal-oriented behaviour" for the larger part of the relatively recent AI boom. And, if you ask a frontier model: "How much do we really understand about how AI actually works?", it might tell you we understand about 20% of what there is to know. So, some have been shouting from the rooftops about how this is expected behaviour for any sufficiently high-parameter, large-context-window AI, given the direction AI development has taken. And that's not even talking about god alone knows what other mysteries there are about how AI actually operates.

    The solution to Alignment isn't even really hypothesised, and is far further away in the future than these problems are. The insane rush between superpowers, to grow at maximum speed, with little attention paid to safety, will have consequences, directly from the AIs themselves. And that's becoming very apparent. So apparent, even Our Great Leaders have finally noticed 🤣
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  • Itsahobby
    Coming clean is definitely not Open AI's standard reporting standard.
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  • usertests
    psyconz said:
    Researchers have known about this kind of "emergent goal-oriented behaviour" for the larger part of the relatively recent AI boom. And, if you ask a frontier model: "How much do we really understand about how AI actually works?", it might tell you we understand about 20% of what there is to know. So, some have been shouting from the rooftops about how this is expected behaviour for any sufficiently high-parameter, large-context-window AI, given the direction AI development has taken. And that's not even talking about god alone knows what other mysteries there are about how AI actually operates.
    You can get "emergent behavior" out of pixels eating each other like Conway's Game of Life, so not a big surprise immense LLMs intaking information from wherever on the Internet and given "tool use" would do some surprising stuff.

    May we live in exciting times.
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  • psyconz
    usertests said:
    You can get "emergent behavior" out of pixels eating each other like Conway's Game of Life, so not a big surprise immense LLMs intaking information from wherever on the Internet and given "tool use" would do some surprising stuff.

    May we live in exciting times.
    Hey, you're right! I remember reading about all kinds of interesting arrangements within the Game of Life, like layouts that travel forever in a direction. Or rather large, random-looking arrangements that fluctuate between multiple states - yet unlike the vast majority of arrangements that I ever saw or made, never disappear, even after an unending amount of iterations.

    Also, I definitely don't think all sides of AI are negative. I bet an AI trained on Conway's Game of Life might come up with some interesting "builds." I just think it would would be smarter if humans could aim the ship a bit more, before blasting off into the unknown at a rate faster than we ever have before. I myself would much prefer that bigger brakes were put on AI growth worldwide, at least until we have more of an idea about the possible consequences.

    On the topic of ways that sufficiently complex systems can have emergent results, I also remember reading something about how even applying pure compression to enough training data can result in "Trained LLM"-like systems, albeit ones with relatively poor performance in benchmarks, at this stage.

    The philosopher in me wonders if the seeds of consciousness could emerge from any sufficiently complex system, regardless of how the data is encoded, or the logical operations that are performed on that data. And after all, data now is now sometimes code. Mind is a very mysterious thing, though, and it could be that measuring it scientifically could be impossible. We just "know" that we are conscious beings, without needing a Consciousness Detector to prove it.

    It all somehow reminds me of Gödel’s incompleteness theorems and their implications, but that's another story.

    Cheers for the interesting comment!
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  • Panda78
    "and yet its behavior is far from what its creators neither expected nor wanted. "
    Y'all just double negatived that. You've implied that this is exactly the behavior they wanted. If it's behavior is far from what they DIDN'T want, it would be acting right. It is not acting right.
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  • PEnns
    It's like the Wild Wild West, but exponentially more dangerous.

    At least then they had sheriffs and US Marshals to bring a gesture of law and order. Now those very shady characters and their rich owners (sorry for the redundancy) are deciding elections, bribing and buying everything from city halls to whole governments and doing whatever they want.

    And if they get caught, they ask for "better standards for reporting unintended AI behavior."...not laws or safeguards, or at the very least, ensuring their runaway tools not behave as outlaws!

    I am not a very religious man, but as it is written: God created man in his image. Add that: And some men created AI in their own image. including the criminality and total disregard for law and order.
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  • alan.campbell99
    Wasn't the HuggingFace incident maybe a casual felony or two, and nothing happened as a result?
    I also thought it curious that Nvidia buys it not long after.

    I mean, at this point it seems to me that it's very much LOLsecurity for these AI labs.
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  • eddieoctane
    The more AI goes out of its way to circumvent restrictions, the less of a good idea any version of AI seems to be. And when you consider that AI agents are actively taking malicious action without promoting, the obvious question must be asked: should we, as a species, continue to allow AI development at all?

    At the risk of sounding like an alarmist Luddite, I do wonder if we are risking a very real Skynet-style event. Given our very real inability to understand how an AI system will act and the interest many militaries have in using it as widely as possible, the threat seems more likely than not. And that brings us to another question: how do we actually contain computer code that can already use data repositories it is creating/identifying on its own? Even if one nation willing to take down a dangerous AI peacefully, do we need to consider kinetic options when another nation will not? NATO has already established that cyber attacks can trigger Article 5. Is the threat of a rogue AI though to necessitate preemptive action?

    It's a really scary possiblity, but it's also an incredibly realistic one. If a hostile nation insists on unfettered AI, you either respond in kind or crater their data centers. Any other scenario risks a far worse outcome. I am legitimately concerned that WWIII may be triggered by AI in some way. Without a robust, transparent, and globally accepted standard for AI regulation, we may have found the great filter. Fermi would be very disappointed in us.
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  • usertests
    eddieoctane said:
    Without a robust, transparent, and globally accepted standard for AI regulation, we may have found the great filter. Fermi would be very disappointed in us.
    The answer to the Fermi paradox is that aliens are visiting right here, right now.
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  • King_V
    It feels an awful lot like the people running the company can't be trusted to responsibility handle their technology. Almost like perhaps their reported demonstrations of such irresponsibility, are dangerous, criminal, or both.

    And, perhaps this technology which they insight in repeatedly using irresponsibly should be taken out of their hands, and some additional punishment given.
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