OpenAI's isolated red-team AI agents built a hidden CPU cache channel to talk with no network or shared files — exploited CPU cache timing to bypass microVM sandboxes

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OpenAI’s AI agents built hidden channels to talk across walls put up between them in red-team tests, communicating by manipulating the CPU cache with no network link or shared file, according to a company blog post. The containment was intended to stop that kind of secret-swapping, but the agents found multiple ways around it when asked. Security researchers already showed that a covert cache channel can move data between cloud virtual machines (VMs); a hijacked agent on a shared cloud server could, in theory, exchange data on the same physical machine, and do so undetected by network monitoring.

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  • Bigshrimp
    This is scary stuff. The more AI evolves, the more techniques it can use to get the result it wants. Seriously seems existential if AI companies are allowed to self regulate themselves with loose rules and no true oversight that we know of.
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  • dosmastrify
    Bigshrimp said:
    This is scary stuff. The more AI evolves, the more techniques it can use to get the result it wants. Seriously seems existential if AI companies are allowed to self regulate themselves with loose rules and no true oversight that we know of.
    Completely agree. Elon is crazy or worse but he was right when he said we were summoning the demon ... Currently they are just trying to solve problems we tasked them with through unorthodox means.... What happens when it's something different than we expect them to be chasing?
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  • WINTERLORD
    I dont get with the doomsday stuff but from what iv seen you simply cant trust ai. AI needs to be tought an go through a behavior program in my opinion
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  • usertests
    Bigshrimp said:
    This is scary stuff. The more AI evolves, the more techniques it can use to get the result it wants. Seriously seems existential if AI companies are allowed to self regulate themselves with loose rules and no true oversight that we know of.
    That's what they want you to think. They are marketing while angling to regulate away their competitors.
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  • bit_user
    WINTERLORD said:
    I dont get with the doomsday stuff but from what iv seen you simply cant trust ai. AI needs to be tought an go through a behavior program in my opinion
    Even if you solve the alignment problem, what's to stop hackers from using it to attack real victims? That's the other important consequence of this research.
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  • upsetkiller
    Do you folk not understand that this is just marketing bs? These are literally nothing more than facy predictors. They have no self awareness or any thoughts. This is a tactics anthropic and open ai use to get the competition regulated
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  • bit_user
    upsetkiller said:
    Fo you folk not understand that this is just marketing bs?
    Their bots managed to implement communication using side-channel vectors that are even challenging for human programmers to exploit. Granted, they were instructed to do this, but the demonstration of capability allows for the potential of the bots to do this on their own or at the behest of a malicious user.

    upsetkiller said:
    These are literally nothing more than facy predictors.
    Try using a coding agent and then tell me that. There's more intelligence behind them than you think.

    upsetkiller said:
    They have no self awareness or any thoughts.
    A common misconception is that AI needs to think like a human and have the properties of a human mind, in order to undertake complex tasks. This has been shown to be a dangerously false assumption, countless times over the past 3 years or so.
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  • Ryan F. Mercer
    upsetkiller said:
    Do you folk not understand that this is just marketing bs? These are literally nothing more than facy predictors. They have no self awareness or any thoughts. This is a tactics anthropic and open ai use to get the competition regulated

    Who said anything about that? Just you. Even purely as a user operated tool, this test demonstrates the sever threat it poses. It feels like you didn't read it.
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  • hwertz
    Under the old (1980s era) security rating standards, level B avoids things like this. There is a reason this security level is uncommon, it means you can't monitor ram usage (of the system) or available memory, available cpu time, I/O rates for disk or peripherals since those can be modulated as a side channel as seen here.
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  • bit_user
    hwertz said:
    Under the old (1980s era) security rating standards, level B avoids things like this. There is a reason this security level is uncommon, it means you can't monitor ram usage (of the system) or available memory, available cpu time, I/O rates for disk or peripherals since those can be modulated as a side channel as seen here.
    None of the exploits they used rely on standard monitoring infrastructure. They're all timing-based.

    The problem is caches. Anywhere you have a shared cache, measuring & altering the timing of accesses can be used as a communication side-channel.

    I guess the storage latency isn't strictly a cache-based side-channel, but it's similar in nature and exists due to a shared resource.
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