Next-generation 3D DRAM approaches reality as scientists achieve 120-layer stack using advanced deposition techniques

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  • ekio
    If manufacturers do not virtually limit availability and access!
    Just like they did for Ram ans Storage these past 5 years where nothing improved on purpose………..
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  • usertests
    From what I read, Samsung is planning to start with 16 layers. If we eventually see around 128 layers it could be for a ≥4 terabit die.

    ekio said:
    If manufacturers do not virtually limit availability and access!
    Just like they did for Ram ans Storage these past 5 years where nothing improved on purpose………..
    There have been improvements, they are just subject to cyclical price swings that wipe out $/TB gains.

    In RAM specifically, we saw 24 Gb DRAM dies used in 48 GB (consumer) DIMMs, and now 32 Gb in 64 GB DIMMs that were launched earlier this year.

    As long as 3D DRAM drives down cost-per-bit and starts replacing planar DRAM, it will eventually make it to consumers. That's unlike the TSV-stacked DRAM used in current 256/512 GB server modules which achieves additional density with a cost multiplier.
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  • chaz_music
    It appears that they are also trying to use sideways thermal paths to get the heat out, which is why I see this going to ECC to detect thermally induced errors and bit flips. And I would be cautious for the first generation of this as the thermal strain between the Si and SiGe layers could cause these to have a short life span. Especially in high thermal transient conditions such as fast RAM loading and accessing for AI, simulations, CAD, and other large dataset and matrices uses. If an application heats the chip stack up fast and then lets it cool fast, that strain can induce cracks and lattice damage through thermal cycling.

    When they figure out how to use SiC as the primary material, this will get very exciting. Much faster material with a large bandgap energy, and a great thermal conductor. This should get us into the THz range for switching.

    And just think: visible light is in the 700THz region, so no need to to add RGB LED's to a PC. The traces will glow by themselves with visible light, but we wouldn't want UV though. I would expect us to be using optical signalling for data by then anyway.

    But they could make direct RF light bulbs ...
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  • JRStern
    As others have said it all comes down to one word: heat.
    Maybe you can stack them with big, thick copper layers, even if that limits the stack to just some modest number, 4 or 8 or 42, I don't know, and whatever electrical insulation they also need, or some magic ceramic that is electrically insulating and conducts heat well, ...

    ... or just stack them like HBM, what the heck.
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  • usertests
    abufrejoval said:
    So no, while 'around the corner' isn't a well defined time period, I see this as the typical IMEC exploratory work, nothing I'd encounter as a finished product, next time I turn a corner to meet a computer shop.
    Samsung's plan is 16 layers for their first generation, sometime in the early 2030s. So maybe 6-8 years from now.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/samsung-reveals-16-layer-3d-dram-plans-with-vct-dram-as-a-stepping-stone-imw-2024-details-the-future-of-compact-higher-density-ram
    Before that, they will switch over to VCTs. We have 32 Gb DRAM dies now, and they will definitely be producing 48 Gb, maybe up to 64-96 Gb before any 3D DRAM lands.

    JRStern said:
    ... or just stack them like HBM, what the heck.
    TSV DRAM is already a thing. That's how you get a 512 GB DDR5 memory module for servers. It's a good tool but it doesn't make memory cheaper like 3D DRAM will.
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  • micheal_15
    2027. Samsung announces new 4TB ram chips. A single Dimm can now have 32TB of memory. 4 stacks gives you 128 TERABYTES of memory.

    This just manages to meet the minimum spec for Windows 12.
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  • DS426
    From an economics and business risk (specically supply chain risk) standpoint, is relying on Germanium a good idea? Doesn't China supply the majority of this rare resource? Hopefully 3D DRAM can move forward without necessarily relying on it.
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